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Jack Torrance's avatar

I remember once commenting to a friend that for all punk's supposed "transformative" and "revolutionary" properties I was hard pressed to find how the years since 1977 could've gone better for the power we were supposedly fighting against.

Fantastic as usual.

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Noam's avatar

It was an interesting and enjoyable read! But with all these cultural analysis pieces I feel that it falls into the old alt culture trap of "There must be something to resist". Young arabs in totalitarian countries toppling autocrats to replace them with populist Islamist are rebelling. Suburban kids listening to weird music have had nothing real to rebel against for generations.

Is the world perfect? of course not. Is western middle class life so incredibly comfortable and alluring that people will almost universally prefer it to any reasonable alternative given enough time (and age)? evidently.

The "Man" is a centralized authority more fitting in a soviet era society when things are centrally planed. In the modern liberal capitalist world you are fighting cultural streams. There is no one building to burn to change the world, you would literally need to convince billions with your idea and by definition to become mainstream.

In my small sample size of my life most "alternative" people do not reject the mainstream initially. At young age for one reason or another they are rejected or are a misfit in the mainstream and looking for acceptance and comradery they find another group. Later they build their personality around the alternative music, financial system, family structure, etc that is defining that group. They just want somewhere to belong. And as they age and become more "mainstream" themselves they realize that they do not hate general society as much as they thought. and some people are just contrarians by nature, that also happens :)

This does not detract from the fact that there are powerful people trying to benefit from cultural movements, but they are as influenced by the movements as they are influencing them. Trump was created by the culture shock of Obama. Is he manipulating people? sure. is he also molded and guided by the zeitgeist? arguably more so.

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